The good part was when I kind of came to the realization that I needed to take the medication. We rely on contributions from our viewers and listeners to do our work. She was a child. Did you understand you were in a full manic phase, that this was the effect? Now, there’s a lot of debate within the psychiatric community about to what extent this disorder, which used to be known as manic depression, is caused by a chemical imbalance and what’s caused by environmental factors. The journey, I mean, it’s like—it’s a magical place, for me, like I—and, I think, for anyone who’s there, because it has this kind of moonscape. I wanted to do it so that there was information woven in. She’s an author and journalist. To see her full performances and interview, go to democracynow.org. And that was when I wanted to sort of know him more. It would have devoted a lot more federal funding for mental health recovery and care. I don’t like have a preference one way or the other. I was getting—I had a job offer. But it’s a similar situation, where you’re kind of—you’ve lost control, and you’re not necessarily who you are when you are functioning and waking up and who you would be at your best day. Just over four years ago, the mad Wu-Tang affiliated rapper Ol’ … Please do your part today. JAIME LOWE: Yes, I think it does. JAIME LOWE: I’m always concerned about the mentally ill in this country, because the healthcare doesn’t even cover enough mental illness coverage. JAIME LOWE: So, I still experience the highs and lows in life, in a pretty hyperbolic form, even with lithium. Occasionally Lowe’s biography bogs down in digression; but her interviews, analyses, and commentaries are always engaging and often bittersweet, as when she discusses the public’s fascination with celebrities and its accompanying schadenfreude: “There’s a small explicit thrill, envy almost, in watching public figures self-destruct, particularly when it involves sex, drugs, and creativity, … Like there’s no money to be made. So, I mean, I—no, I didn’t want to know that I was in a manic phase. It’s not—like she always wanted to be called manic depressive, and that “bipolar” always sounded weird to her. I think that’s definitely true. The thing about mental illness is that it’s so individual. Jaime Lowe is a writer living in Brooklyn. I still am really, really like excited about random things that I can’t identify. I know that very few people have that. Getty Images offers exclusive rights-ready and premium royalty-free analog, HD, and 4K video of the highest quality. And I was actually living only a few blocks from your studio, which was really funny, because I just walked by my old apartment. JAIME LOWE: It was terrible. Or maybe it’s much more subtle, and you’d never know. Jaime Lowe is a writer living in Brooklyn.She is a frequent contributor to The New York Times Magazine and her work has appeared in New York magazine, Esquire, Sports Illustrated, Maxim, Gawker, The Village Voice, LA Weekly, and on ESPN.com. When we come back, we’ll go from that UCLA adolescent psych ward to the salt flats of Bolivia, where so much of lithium is. And I think that the—so, I think the sexual assault actually is part of it. The Caitlin Lowe Interview - Duration: 9:26. NERMEEN SHAIKH: Before we go to your trip to Bolivia, which is where most—half of the world’s lithium is found, I wanted to talk about the fact that, in your book, you raise the question of the two different traumas that you experienced that, what you say, triggered your bipolar disorder. Jaime Lowe is the author of Digging for Dirt: The Life and Death of ODB and Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind. JAIME LOWE: Yes. I thought I could talk to Michael Jackson. Because it could have been an isolated incident. It leads to, you know, any number of kind of—I sent about 1,000 emails to colleagues about story ideas that were like, you know, beyond recognizable, and I would—like, writing poetry and like singing musicals that I had written in 10 minutes that I thought were amazing. JAIME LOWE: It’s funny, because my concerns were probably more professional than they were about being bipolar and coming out as bipolar, just because, like I said earlier, I am—I have no filter. Like you need to just like back up and stop talking to me. AMY GOODMAN: But you know how you want people to respond to you. It's now called bipolar disorder. I think that’s why it’s, you know, mental. I think that, you know, in the same way that—and this sounds horrible, but the same way that you break a horse, like I think that I was just so far gone, and I had been tackled by nurses to take medication at that point. And then you embark on this journey, writing Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind. AMY GOODMAN: So what does that mean in terms of people’s access to lithium? Every year some 44 million Americans experience mental illness, of which almost 6 million are diagnosed as bipolar. The rest of the medications are more for depression, and I suffer more from mania. They told me was I was manic depressive, which was what it was called in—when I was diagnosed, in '93. We speak with journalist and author Jaime Lowe about her remarkable memoir, “Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind.” She shares and investigates her … But that story came about mostly because I was fascinated by that program and by the fact that it existed, because I grew up in California and just had no idea that that was 40 percent of our firefighting brigade, is from inmate firefighters. And they kind of just put me in this box. You’re going to get better. Why was the term changed? I am what I am, like Popeye. Jamie Lee Curtis discusses her extraordinary career with Vanity Fair, from 'Halloween,' 'Trading Places,' and 'My Girl' to 'Freaky Friday' and 'Knives Out. And they’re not really hotels. Andrew Boucher Recommended for you. JAIME LOWE: That’s true. AMY GOODMAN: I mean, this amazing story of prisoners, side by side with professional firefighters, so they had been trained—, AMY GOODMAN: —who are fighting the fires and being paid almost nothing—. JAIME LOWE: It’s a really good question, because it is controversial and totally unknowable, in some ways. “Thirsty for Democracy: The Poisoning of an American City”: Complete Democracy Now! Don't worry, we'll never share or sell your information. Talk about the decision you made and your concerns about it and the kind of response you’ve gotten to it. And that took 30 percent of federal funding away from mental illness care. AMY GOODMAN: Well, every year some 44 million Americans experience mental illness, of which almost 6 million are diagnosed as bipolar. Please do your part today. In an interview with parents Friday, Elizabeth McBane, mother of two high school … And some of it was very—you know, some parts of mental illness are kind of funny. Democracy Now! Well, to be honest, I wish I had come up with the premise behind Theron Humphrey’s This Wild Idea. I had been like whispering all of these, you know, conspiracy theories to different patients. And so, I’ve paid, I think, more than $100,000, over the time that I’ve been seeing him, just to see him. And it’s been used for millennia. Of course, it means for lithium and all other drugs. He’s been a loving father my entire life and very supportive and trying to understand what all of this is, as all my parents have always tried to do, because it’s not easy. And then I had—it worked so well, actually, that I—with my psychiatrist, once I had moved to New York after college, we decided that I could like taper down, try life without lithium, because—, JAIME LOWE: That was—I was 25, so it was about—. It’s present everywhere on Earth, in the galaxy, in our bodies, for everyone. They were involved in some of the things that were kind of the outlandish parts of the way I was behaving, were like manifestations of having been assaulted. But in the hospital, I was extremely religious. For me, it was kind of seamless. And like, you know, I was very—I would talk to anyone who—like, I would say anyone who would talk to me, but it was actually I would just talk to anyone, like whether they wanted me to approach them or not. I was like imagining Muppets. AMY GOODMAN: And explain what lithium is, and explain how—what effect it had on you and why you eventually, after decades, had to give it up. To me, it doesn’t make a difference. JAIME LOWE: I totally cop out, because it’s so hard for me to say what the people around me have experienced. So, the lithium, for me, when I took it, I didn’t actually feel that many side effects. You’re a professional journalist. Thanks so much for joining us. Interview by Jaime Lowe Jan. 16, 2019 Last month, Congress passed the First Step Act, a prison-reform bill intended to reduce recidivism. Can you talk about what it means for girls, for boys, for women, for men? I’m not a religious person at all. Sign up for our Daily News Digest today! to your inbox each morning. AMY GOODMAN: And were you self-aware? I had to go through a lot before Dr. DeAntonio, who was the head of adolescent care there, diagnosed me. It also is a metal. I think everybody is a little bit mentally ill. JAIME LOWE: And a lot of that is because that—those are GPs doing that. So, the beginning of it, I was very resistant to medications. She points to statistics published by the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control, that show the use of prescription medication for antidepressants among all ages increased nearly 400 percent over the last two decades. NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, one of the things that you point out—I mean, a part of the reason that this memoir is so remarkable is that, you know, there is still a lot of stigma attached to mental illness, so it took a lot of courage for you to write as you did. AMY GOODMAN: Can you think of a moment where someone intervened, when you were pushing them away, that made an enormous difference in your life? And I think that then each episode is also a trauma in itself, because they’re really, really intense, really, really kind of—they sort of shift the way your life moves, and it’s like a different narrative then. JAIME LOWE: Right. AMY GOODMAN: Well, I want to thank you so much for being with us, Jaime Lowe, author and journalist. And it just triggered this really, really intense—it was probably a good six months where I was back and forth between New York and L.A., because I wouldn’t stay in L.A., where my parents were trying to like help me get better. “I was unformed,” she says, adding “I was less formed.” She didn’t have a choice about taking lithium in the same way McDermott at first felt he did. Archives. Model Daisy Lowe, 30, actress Jaime Winstone, 34, and their TV producer friend Emily Ann Sonnet joined protesters on their first day of a fortnight-long campaign of chaos in London. JAIME LOWE: I think that, you know, identifying male figures in my life, like my dad, and saying that he had abused me, and that that abuse actually was coming from somewhere else. This is a rush transcript. The goal of Jaime Lowe’s Digging for Dirt therefore strikes me as an admirable, if unsuccessful, one. NERMEEN SHAIKH: According to the American Psychiatric Association, bipolar disorders are, quote, “brain disorders that cause changes in a person’s mood, energy and ability to function.” Bipolar disorder used to be called manic depression. I can see the stigma, and I understand it, and I see it with other people. Do … You talked about taking lithium for 20 years and what it meant to you. We continue our interview with journalist and author Jaime Lowe about her remarkable memoir, Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind. So, I then ended up in L.A. for three months with my family and then came back here and was like pretty depressed for six months. So, the tapering off was in 2001. Interview with photo editor Stacey Baker From Concept to Cover Image: Behind the Scenes at The New York Times Magazine. Her latest book, Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind. I’ll see someone, and I’m like, “Oh, I recognize that outfit.” Like, it looks a lot like something that I would have loved when I was not on my meds. I had been experiencing just so much tumult in my life that to have something that kind of evened everything out was good. But according to the medical system we have today, they’re there to simply write out prescriptions. JAIME LOWE: Well, I’m lucky that the medications have worked, too, because they don’t work for a lot of people. In 255 pages she seeks to unravel the soul of … Like there were these enormous pipes outside the window, and it was just the generator of the hospital, but I had this idea that they were poison gas and that it was going to be like another Holocaust and we were all going to die. And so, that’s where I ended up. And, you know, I had accused my dad of being physically abusive. It was about Ol’ Dirty Bastard from the Wu-Tang Clan, and he was diagnosed schizophrenic. So—. So, and then, as—like from ’81 to now, like there's been a steady decrease in terms of funding and in terms of just even awareness of how much we can take care of people. I don’t know. And it was like horrifying and just like this thing that made everything a billion times worse. Your parents are divorced, so you say you’ve got, you know, many, many parents. And the psychiatrist with the MD being able to prescribe—. NERMEEN SHAIKH: Well, I mean, one of the things that you say is that there was a huge shift in public policy regarding mental health in the mid-’80s that made healthcare so much—healthcare for mental illness so much more difficult to access for so many people. JAIME LOWE: Thank you so much for having me. I think Carrie Fisher has—I’m going to paraphrase her, because I can’t actually say her words perfectly, because she’s amazing, but she’s basically said “bipolar” is like a sexual bear. AMY GOODMAN: What was—what did it mean to you that your illness was named? I still get really anxious when, you know, there’s too much work on my plate. And so I don’t know how I would react to me, if I were in the reverse position. For me, it does. JAIME LOWE: So, that was—that’s a really good question. JAIME LOWE: I don’t know why it was changed, because it doesn’t—I think “manic depression” actually captures what I go through perfectly. And I think part of the reason it was seamless was because it had to be. AMY GOODMAN: And so, what did they give you? I really am not functioning the way that I should be. And I think that you can sometimes see, from—like you can see yourself acting and say, “This is not what I would normally do, but this is what I’m doing.” I think that because it’s been thought of as a weakness, people are afraid to kind of say that they’ve experienced that, too. Jaime, it’s great to have you with us and to continue this conversation. So how do you want those family members to respond to you? She shares and investigates her experience with mental illness and the drugs used to combat it. I sometimes just tell them to call my mom or my dad or my stepdad or my stepmom. JAIME LOWE: I think there’s still a stigma because it’s thought of as a type of weakness, that you can’t control yourself, that you can’t control your environment, that you can’t control the world around you, because you’re reacting in a way that is outside of your norm. 2. And that was like, I just started acting really weird. And maybe that’s because I was diagnosed when I was 16, and it’s always been kind of a part of who I am. But I think that I didn’t want to only be a writer who was writing about myself, and I didn’t only want to be a writer who was writing about mental illness, even though the mental illness was something I was fascinated by and I wanted to know more about, and I felt like there was definitely like deep investigation to be done there, and especially because it touched me so personally. In 2011, Humphrey set out on his goal: to meet and photograph one person a day for a year. I thought I knew secret tunnels to Neverland. AMY GOODMAN: And why did you call your book Mental? It was actually—I think I was talking about it with you earlier, and I said mid-'80s, and I should have said early ’80s, because Carter actually had a Mental Health Systems Act that he was going to—that he had put in place, that would have had community care. NERMEEN SHAIKH: In what sense, though? Melissa Carroll, artist, cancer paintings, Ewing Sarcoma. Like, I don’t want to do this to rest my life. AMY GOODMAN: And have you felt any—any effects of writing this book or writing the piece you did in The New York Times, magazines, publications you’d want to write for about many different issues, raising this? A lot of people feel side effects. You know, that was one of the few things in the book where I was trying to really find a reason for that, because the symptoms are so bizarre. Now, that doesn’t necessarily mean you have to do, you know, five days a week of Freudian analysis or Jungian theory, but I think like having a support system, somebody who’s there, who’s talking to you and who you’re talking to and who can identity when things are kind of falling apart, that outside person is a really important factor that’s completely missing from our healthcare system. So, it was present in the Big Bang. But lithium is—the problem is, is that there aren’t more tests done on lithium for other applications, because there isn’t a market for it. I think that when you think about how the FDA has approved medications and how recently that’s been, lithium wasn’t approved, actually, until the early '70s. December 2, 2008. He was—as an elder person, he sort of had a bout of depression that was pretty serious. studio. AMY GOODMAN: I mean, isn’t this an absolutely critical talk—I mean, discussion? JAIME LOWE: I mean, I think that they all were trying to intervene at some point. And similarly, it’s often very difficult for people to accept that they need medication for mental illness. And I think that a lot of—you know, there was this comprehensive study of research from the past 40 years that basically said that sexual assault victims are associated with mental illness. I mean, like, one thing is extreme religiosity. And I get a lot of letters from people who have read the book or who read the article I wrote for the Times Magazine. She is a frequent contributor to The New York Times Magazine.Lowe is the author of Digging for Dirt: The Life and Death of ODB and Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind.. Jaime Lowe’s 8 Rules For Writing Memoirs And it was like I wanted to just roll around in it and kind of pay homage to this thing that had helped me for so long. The original content of this program is licensed under a. JAIME LOWE: I was there for about three weeks, so the first three weeks of my senior year. But they have no way of bridging the gap between when they’re released and actually working for CAL FIRE, like there’s no job afterwards. Jaime Lowe Interviews Theron Humphrey Have you ever heard a song, or read a book, or watched a movie that you wish you created? It was really, really hard. I was freelancing. I think that that’s really excellent in some ways, because the pills can really help, and I think it’s also really detrimental in other ways, because you have this shift from analysis to, you know, basically prescription, where you have—. Democracy Now! JAIME LOWE: Right. Years ago, I couldn’t say the word Lithium aloud. So can you say what role you think trauma plays in this? AMY GOODMAN: And the medication was lithium? This is amazing. 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Adriano Espaillat Tests Positive for Coronavirus After Receiving 2nd Dose of Vaccine. Lithium was kind of in my back pocket and worked. This disorder used to be called manic depression, I mean, in the period you’re speaking of where this shift occurred, in the 1980s. She was on lithium for two decades but was forced to go off it when she experienced serious kidney problems as a result of the medication. AMY GOODMAN: Can you, because you’re a journalist and you’ve really deeply researched all of this now and you’re so deeply informed by your own personal experience, talk about what the definition of bipolar disorder is? AMY GOODMAN: So what did it mean to, quote, “taper down” in your life? According to the American Psychiatric Association, bipolar disorders are, quote, “brain disorders that cause changes in a person’s mood, energy and ability to function.” Bipolar disorder used to be called manic depression. JAIME LOWE: I think that that’s how some people see it. This really isn’t like a”—. And it was also, you know, fantastic, because I got better. So, I was on Depakote. I mean, since you were working with a doctor, you knew you were tapering down. AMY GOODMAN: Jaime, can you talk about what you write at the end of your book, which is, “I am lucky. There are like highs that are wearing, you know, head-to-toe glitter and like 18 tutus, 16 belts, 30 necklaces and like, you know, this like crazy—and I can see it like when I’m on the subway sometimes. And so, I remember it was sort of like they would rotate babysitting duties with me. I don’t know to be not talking about it. I thought people could figure that out. I’m like in the 1 percent of, you know, the mentally ill, because so many people cannot afford to do that and could never even entertain that concept. You know, as if there was a parallel one, what would have happened? AMY GOODMAN: Digging for Dirt: The Life and Death of ODB. You need to like take medication,” I would have been like, “You don’t know what you’re talking about. We continue our interview with journalist and author Jaime Lowe about her remarkable memoir, Mental: Lithium, Love, and Losing My Mind. NERMEEN SHAIKH: “Everyone has a brain, which plays a major role in mental illness. Many parts are horrible. JAIME LOWE: So, I think part of that is just that psychiatric care is in its infancy. Lowe is the author of Digging for Dirt: The Life and Death of ODB, a biography of Ol’ Dirty Bastard, a founding member of the Wu-Tang Clan. You can stay in the middle of the Salar. To see Part 1 of the conversation, you can go to democracynow.org. AMY GOODMAN: I don’t think you described that point where you tapered off and what it meant in terms of what happened to you. I mean, there are a lot of different ways I could have not been here. You write about many different kinds of issues. It May Soon Get Even Worse, Would You Patent the Sun? This is viewer supported news. And if any of them had said like, “Oh, you’re experiencing mania. Part 1: Lithium, Love and Losing My Mind: Jaime Lowe on Her Life with Bipolar Disorder & Drugs to Manage It, Part 2: “Mental” Author Jaime Lowe on Living with Bipolar Disorder, Facing Social Stigma & Finding Support, Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License, Mike Davis: As Workers Face Dangerous Conditions Amid Reopening, We Need Unions & Medicare for All, “American Abyss”: Fascism Historian Tim Snyder on Trump’s Coup Attempt, Impeachment & What’s Next, America Has Entered the Weimar Era: Walden Bello on How Neoliberalism Fueled Trump & Violent Right, NY Rep. Adriano Espaillat Tests Positive for Coronavirus After Receiving 2nd Dose of Vaccine. And I remember thinking like, “Maybe something is wrong.”. And that—you know, I think that that—if I was like looking for a thread through whatever work I was doing, I think it’s just curiosity about a human and a person and what they’re like. You know? I think you have to basically try, and just keep trying and keep trying, to keep that person well and there and close. AMY GOODMAN: And then when you ultimately had to go off it, which is more recent, because of kidney trouble. Victor Goldfeld: The _Heeb_ Interview. Did you know that you can get Democracy Now! Fastpitch Softball TV Show 3,069 views. NERMEEN SHAIKH: And do you—from the people that you heard from, all the people you received letters from, after you wrote that New York Times piece, and, no doubt, after this book, as well, did many people say that those around them, those close to them, had responded in this way—in other words, thinking that they had a choice and they just had to get it together, or however people understand it? 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